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    Wenn ich Skill Drain auf dem Feld habe, und mein Gegner Jinzo beschwört, welcher Effekt tritt dann ein? Der von Jinzo, weil er alle Falleneffekte verhindert, oder der von Skill Drain, weil alle Monstereffekte verhindert werden? *grübel*

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    ich würd sagen der von jinzo

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    wenn skill drain schon offen liegt hat jinzo keinen effekt
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    Ich würde auch sagen,der von Skill drain,da man hier der Spell Speed eh keine bedeutung hat,da es sich ja nicht um eine Kette handelt,da Skill Drain ja bereits auf dem Feld liegen muss.Da jinzo danach aktiviert wird ist dann sein Effekt nicht wirksam.

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    Gut, dann lohnen sich ja meine 2 Skill Drains im Deck^^

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    net unbedingt,skilldrain muss vor jinzo aufs feld,normalerweise hat man nen Jinzo schnll draussen,würde wenn nur eins ins deck nehmen.

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    Original geschrieben von HimuraKenshin
    net unbedingt,skilldrain muss vor jinzo aufs feld,normalerweise hat man nen Jinzo schnll draussen,würde wenn nur eins ins deck nehmen.

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    Gibt ja noch vieel mehr Monster mit guten Effects wie Jinzo, Sangan und Die Witch können mit Skill Drain auf dem Feld z.b nicht mehr searchen, gegen Yata ises auch gut^^

    Aber eins werd ich wohl ins Side Deck tun, behindert ja auch meine eigenen Effekte.

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    bei sangan und witch tritt der effekt trotzdem ein weil der effekt im friedhof aktiviert wird skill drain ist ein komplizierte karte finde ich

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    You can negate a Flip Effect with "Skill Drain". But you cannot activate "Skill Drain" in Damage Step, so you cannot activate "Skill Drain" as a Chain to a Flip Effect when the Flip Effect is activated when the monster is attacked.



    Paying 1000 Life Points is a cost to activate "Skill Drain".



    While "Skill Drain" is active, you can activate a Trigger Effect, but it is negated. Also, if you activate "Cannon Soldier", only when you offer the "Cannon Soldier" itself, the effect cannot be negated. Because the "Cannon Soldier" is not on the field.



    Effects which is activated in the Graveyard are not negated by "Skill Drain", like "Witch of the Black Forest", "Giant Rat" and "Vampire Lord".



    While "Skill Drain" is active, "Jinzo" cannot negte Trap Cards. Also, when there is "Jinzo" on the field, you cannot activate "Skill Drain", because it is a Trap Card.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, you do not have to pay costs for "Dark Elf", and you can attack with "Ultimate Obedient Fiend" when you have cards in your hand. Because those effects which need cost are negated.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, you DO NOT have to pay costs for "The Unfriendly Amazon" and "Armor Exe". Because effects to remain those cards on the field are negated.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, and you have "Sinister Serpent" in your Graveyard, its effect is activated.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, the effect of "Winged Minion" which increase ATK is not negated. Because the "Winged Minion" is not in face-up on the field when you resolve the effect.



    When a monster's ATK or DEF is changed by its own effect, and "Skill Drain" is activated, the effect is negated. Also, the effect is not activated if the effect of "Skill Drain" is gone.



    While "Skill Drain"is active, Battle Positions of "Goblin Attack Force" and "Spear Dragon" are not changed after attackings. Also, if "Skill Drain" is activated after their attacking, Battle Positions are changed, but you can change those at the next turn.



    When your opponent has "Bazoo the Soul Eater" and its ATK is increased, and you activate "Skill Drain", then the ATK is rerurned to the original. Even the effect of "Skill Drain" is gone, its ATK is not changed. Also, you can activate "Bazoo the Soul Eater" to remove monsters from your Graveyard, but the effect is negated.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, monsters which are absorved by "Relinquished" are negated.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, the ATK of "Relinquished" is the original if there is no other effect which increase the ATK.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, Toon Monsters' effects are all negated.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, Spirit Monsters are not returned to hands.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, you cannot place a Spell Counter on your "Skilled Dark Magician". If a Spell Counter is already on the "Skilled Dark Magician", it is removed.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, you can activate "Exiled Force" or "Paladin of White Dragon", because they are not on the field when those effect are resolved.



    When "Skill Drain" is active, effects of "Berserk Dragon" are negated. Also, its ATK is not changed if the effect of "Skill Drain" is gone. By the way, the effect of "Berserk Dragon" is not to count turns.



    When "Skill Drain" is active, and face-down "Kiseitai" is attaced, but the effect of "Kiseitai" is negated when it is flipped face-up. But you cannot negate the effect of "Kiseitai" if it is treated as a Equip Spell Card when "Skill Drain" is activated.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, Multi Trigger Effects of "Ryu Senshi" or "Dark Paladin" are negated.



    When you Special Summon a Fusion Monster by "Summoner of Illusion" or "Magical Scientist", and "Skill Drain" is activated, but the Fusion Monster is destroyed at the End Phase.



    When "Skill Drain" is active, the increased ATK of "Exodia Necross" is returned original. Even if "Skill Drain" is gone, the ATK doesn't returned to the increased one. Also, while "Skill Drain" is active, "Exodia Necross" is not destroyed if "Forbidden" Cards are removed from the Graveyard. In that case, "Exodia Necross" is destroyed when the effect of "Skill Drain" is gone.



    When "Skill Drain" is active, you can Special Summon "Fushioh Richie" by offering "Great Dezard" as a Tribute. Because when you resolve the effect of "Great Dezard", it is not on the field.



    When "Skill Drain" is active, you can Special Summon "Mirage Knight" because the effect of "Dark Flare Knight" is activated in the Graveyard. Both effects of "Mirage Knight"are negated.



    When "Skill Drain" is active, and your "Neko Mane King" is sent to the Graveyard by your opponent's card effect, its effect is activated.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, the effect of "Hino-Kagu-Tsuchi" is activated and negated. But once the effect is activated and "Skill Drain" is activated, the effect is not negated.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, and "Maju Garzett" is Tribute Summoned, its ATK is 0. If the effect of "Skill Drain" is gone, the ATK is not changed.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, the effect of "Zombyra the Dark" is negated, and it can attack directly to your opponent's Life Points. Also, its ATK is not decreased. If the effect of "Skill Drain" is gone, its ATK is not changed.



    When you Special Summon a Fusion Monster by "Magical Scientist" and "Skill Drain" is activated after that, the Fusion Monster is not affected by "Skill Drain". So it cannot attack directly to your opponent's Life Points.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, and you Flip Summon "Spear Cretin", its effect is negated when it is sent to the Graveyard.



    When "Skill Drain" is active, and Union Monsters are activated to be Equip Cards, those effects are negated. But when they are treated as Equip Cards before "Skill Drain" is activated, those are not negated.



    When you activate "Jowls of Dark Demise" and "Skill Drain" is activated after that, the effect is not negated. So the monster taken control is returned to the owner at the end of turn.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, you can Special Summon "Gilasaurus". But the effect is negated. So you cannnot Special Summon other monster by its effect.



    When "Skill Drain" is activated after the first attack of "Hayabusa Knight", then it cannot do the second attack.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, "Twin Headed Behemoth" is Special Summoned by its effect.



    When you Special Summon a Fusion Monster by "Summoner of Illusion", and "Skill Drain" is activated, the effect is not negated by "Skill Drain". So the monster is destroyed at the end of turn.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, the ATK/DEF of "Gradius Option" is changed to 0.



    While "Skill Drain" is active and there's no "Archfiend" Monster on the field, you cannot Summon or Flip Summon "Terrorking Archfiend".



    While "Skill Drain" is active, costs to maintain "Archfiend" Cards are negated.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, effects of rolling dice of "Archfiend" Cards are negated.



    When "Skill Drain" is active, the increased ATK of "Exodia Necross" is returned original. Even if "Skill Drain" is gone, the ATK doesn't returned to the increased one. Also, while "Skill Drain" is active, "Exodia Necross" is not destroyed if "Forbidden" Cards are removed from the Graveyard. In that case, "Exodia Necross" is destroyed when the effect of "Skill Drain" is gone.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, you can Special Summon "Fushioh Richie" by offering "Great Dezard". Because the "Great Dezard" is sent to the Graveyard when the effect is resolved.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, "Mirage Knight" can be Special Summoned by offering "Dark Flare Knight". But effects of "Mirage Knight" are negated.



    While "Skill Drain" is active, and "Neko Mane King" is sent to the Graveyard, its effect is activated.



    While "Skill Drain" is negated by "Royal Decree", and you Summon "Jinzo", then both Trap Cards are negated.
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    Skill Drain ist eine Goile Karte, wenn amn sie richtig einsetzt. Skill Drain + GAF, Giant Orc, Zombyra, Jirai Gumo etc. rockt alles weg!
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    das is echt net schlecht mit gaf giant orc&co...wär ne überlegung wert^^

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