Das Universum in der Nussschale - Chat-Thread

[DarkMakroFace]

Kleiner Vorgeschmack: Sollte ich die Leitung des DBT übernehmen, werden Decks ohne Strategie gelöscht und bei mehrmaliger Wiederholung mit Threadsperren belegt.

Müssen wirn Lied auch noch zum Deck komponieren?

[Chaoz]

hab morgen erst wieder schule

[X]

Ich postuliere: Satanisten Satanismus & Co ist eine Pubertäre Autonomiephase.

[PetrusII]

Das ist der größte schwachsinn denn ich je gehört habe. oO
Davon ist in der Stanistischen Bibel niemals die rede. -.-
Aber bei Wikipedia darf ja eh jeder Stümper rein schreiben. -.-


Ich kann sehr wohl von mir behaupten Satanist zu sein.

Ich behaupte, dies ist ein Fall von "gefährlichem Halbwissen":

The Nine Satanic Sins

by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1987

Spoiler:

1. Stupidity—The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.

2. Pretentiousness—Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.

3. Solipsism—Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.

4. Self-deceit—It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements” but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!

5. Herd Conformity—That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.

6. Lack of Perspective—Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.

7. Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies—Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.

8. Counterproductive Pride—That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.

9. Lack of Aesthetics—This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing—it’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.

The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1967

Spoiler:

[Spanish, Croation]



1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.

2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.

3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.

4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.

5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.

6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.

7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

9. Do not harm little children.

10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

Quelle: churchofsatan.com

Gib einfach "the nine satanic sins", oder "the eleven rules of the earth" bei google ein und du wirst fündig.

/e: Korrekt. Als ich noch jung war, habe ich ebenfalls kleinen, süßen Ratten immer die Köpfe abgebissen.

[Feroxita]

hey lucifer sorry wegen dem comment mit der schwarzen messe sollt nur ein scherz sein
ich hab doch kein problem damit wenn du satanist bist^^

[Lucifer]

Ich behaupte, dies ist ein Fall von "gefährlichem Halbwissen":

The Nine Satanic Sins

by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1987

Spoiler:

1. Stupidity—The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.

2. Pretentiousness—Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.

3. Solipsism—Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.

4. Self-deceit—It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements” but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!

5. Herd Conformity—That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.

6. Lack of Perspective—Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.

7. Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies—Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.

8. Counterproductive Pride—That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.

9. Lack of Aesthetics—This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing—it’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.

The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1967

Spoiler:

[Spanish, Croation]



1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.

2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.

3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.

4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.

5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.

6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.

7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

9. Do not harm little children.

10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

Quelle: churchofsatan.com

Gib einfach "the nine satanic sins", oder "the eleven rules of the earth" bei google ein und du wirst fündig.

/e: Korrekt. Als ich noch jung war, habe ich ebenfalls kleinen, süßen Ratten immer die Köpfe abgebissen.

Und warum steht davon NICHTS in der von ihm geschrieben Satanischen Bibel?
Wie gesagt das Wort Satanischesünden wiederspricht sich in sich selbst da es so gegen die Satanischen Grundsätzt verstößt. oO

Das wort Satanistischesünden Wiederspricht sich schon in sich selbst.
Denn der Satanismus besagt das alle Christlichen "Sünden" zu Körperlichen und Geistigen erfüllung führen
und somit das ist was der Satanismus anstrebt.
Der Satanismus lehrt einem auch es weder eine Hölle noch einen Himmel gibt.
Sonder der "Himmel" und "Hölle" ist das was du aus deinem Leben im hier und jetzt machst.

[Formetrix]

3. Solipsismus
5. Zugehörigkeit zur Herde

Das Widerspricht sich doch, oder?

[PetrusII]

Das Widerspricht sich doch, oder?

Du weißt schon, dass Solipsismus eine philosophische Denkhaltung ist, die die Meinung vertritt, man sei selbst das einzig existierende Individuum, während alle anderen Menschen Bewusstseinsinhalte sind, deren Individuuen nicht nachweisbar sind?

@ Lucifer: Woher soll ich wissen, warum davon nichts in der Bibel drin steht? Mal ehrlich, sieh dir die Seite doch mal an, anstatt deine Argumenation nur auf eine einzige Lektüre zu stützen; womöglich lernst du ja was Neues dazu, was du zuvor noch nicht wusstest? Oder hast du etwa Angst davor, deine satanische Welt bräche zusammen, wenn du dies tätest? ;P

Die Church Of Satan scheint mir übrigens sehr offiziell und umfassend zu sein. Ihre Worte sind offenbar Gesetz, wenn es um den Satanismus angeht. So sieht es aus und so geschieht es auch.

Einsprüche sind unnötig, denn ich bin keineswegs für die Inhalte jener Seite verantwortlich. Beschwerden sollten sich also an die Church richten. Ich bin vollkommen unschuldig.

[Feroxita]

formetrix meint wahrscheinlich das man wenn man die die meinung vertritt man sei das einzige existierende individuum dann hat man keine zugehörigkeit zur herde^^

[DL23]

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